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| 0006246 | MediaMonkey (current) | Properties/Auto-Tools | public | 2010-01-13 06:17 | 2010-02-03 04:15 | |||||||
| Reporter | Ludek | |||||||||||
| Priority | urgent | Severity | feature | Reproducibility | always | |||||||
| Status | resolved | Resolution | fixed | |||||||||
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| Target Version | 4.0 | Fixed in Version | 4.0 | |||||||||
| Summary | 0006246: Add 'Skip Count' / 'Last Skipped' columns | |||||||||||
| Description | Based on many requests like http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12948 [^] http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=19487&p=233577&hilit=skip+count#p233577 [^] http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=16992&p=84543&hilit=skip+count#p84543 [^] it seems to be valuable to add this feature. 1. Add new columns/fields '#Skipped', 'Last Skipped' 2. Add these fields to advanced queries and auto-playlists 3. Add the fields as new scripting properties to ISDBSongData COM interface. | |||||||||||
| Additional Information | http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12948 [^] http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=19487&p=233577&hilit=skip+count#p233577 [^] http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=16992&p=84543&hilit=skip+count#p84543 [^] | |||||||||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | |||||||||||
| Fixed in build | 1302 | |||||||||||
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(0019944) rusty (administrator) 2010-01-13 10:48 edited on: 2010-01-13 10:52 |
I can see #skipped being useful, esp. for users who haven't rated their tracks. It would be pretty important, though to define what a 'skip' is, and make sure that it's consistent with our definition of what a 'played' track is e.g. if the user listened to 7/8 of the track and then skipped it, it doesn't really mean the same as listening to 1/8 of the track and then skipping it. |
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(0019947) jiri (administrator) 2010-01-13 17:27 |
Ok, let's add it then. My point was, that such a field would lose its importance when e.g. some recommendation engine is implemented and so adding a new field would only mean increased memory requirements, etc. As for 'skip' definition, we could probably say it's any pressing of Next button while only a very small (like <1/10?) part of the content has been played. I'm not sure about Stop button though, it probably shouldn't be considered as a 'skip' in any case. |
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(0019949) Ludek (developer) 2010-01-14 05:36 edited on: 2010-01-14 05:49 |
I don't think that it's any pressing of Next button while only a very small (like <1/10) part of the content has been played. I would rather say that skip is any pressing of Next button while (> 10 seconds) and (< 30 seconds) of the content has been played. My point here is that if a user just fast switches between songs by repeatedly clicking next button then it shouldn't be considered as a skip, because by listening for just a second user hasn't listened to almost nothing so he cannot review if he likes it or doesn't like. I have just tested iTunes and they implemented it similarly, i.e. something between 10 and 30 seconds of playback is considered as skip. |
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(0019951) jiri (administrator) 2010-01-14 06:53 |
I guess that it depends on user and tracks - sometimes user will even after 2-3 seconds realize that the track should be skipped, i.e. 1/10 of track would be too much for these purposes. Personally, I would set the interval to something like 2 seconds to 3/10 of length of a track. |
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(0019955) Ludek (developer) 2010-01-14 19:40 edited on: 2010-01-14 19:59 |
Implemented in build 1301. Interval set from 2 seconds to 3/10 of length of a track. Added 'Skipped #' column, added 'Skip Counter' properties field, added 'Skipped #' advanced query condition, added to COM interfaces ( http://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/index.php/ISDBSongData::SkipCount [^] ) |
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(0019994) Ludek (developer) 2010-02-02 17:45 edited on: 2010-02-03 04:15 |
As noted here http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=12948 [^] Also an "OnTrackSkipped" or similar event should be added as well. Fixed in build 1302 and documented here: http://www.mediamonkey.com/wiki/index.php/ISDBApplicationEvents::OnTrackSkipped [^] |
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