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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0001391 | MMW v4 | Conversion/Leveling | public | 2004-05-23 02:46 | 2013-09-17 06:47 |
| Reporter | peke | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | high | Severity | feature | Reproducibility | N/A |
| Status | feedback | Resolution | reopened | ||
| Summary | 0001391: External Command line Encoder Support | ||||
| Description | I think that it is good to support external Type of encoder with command line parameter parsed. Something similar to solution provided by CDeX. | ||||
| Additional Information | Forum: Re add link | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
| Fixed in build | |||||
| parent of | 0001358 | resolved | peke | MMW v4 | MPC encoding |
| parent of | 0004807 | new | rusty | MMW Wishlist | Ability to transcode the HE-AAC format |
| parent of | 0004797 | closed | michal | AAC / Video codec plugin | Alac encoder |
| has duplicate | 0003164 | closed | MMW Wishlist | Add support for external encoders | |
| Not all the children of this issue are yet resolved or closed. | |||||
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Sounds like an Engineering requirement rather than an end-user feature, but maybe I'm wrong. What I mean is: To add support for MPC encoding, this could be an engineering requirement, but this in itself, doesn't provide any utility to the user. Am I misunderstanding? |
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You are not wrong, I just looked from users point of view e.i. MM reads APE but it cant be Compressed into APE format so it can do the job and I must use other App to compress/rip to APE which then I play with MM. But if I had this Spec: -------------------------------------- External Encoder Settings -------------------------------------- File Extension: ____ External Encoder App: _______ [Browse] Command Line: __________________ [^] [x] Tag after Encoding If Supported -------------------------------------- I Could Set My Own external Encoder for use in MM For APE Example: -------------------------------------- External Encoder Settings -------------------------------------- File Extension: APE_ External Encoder App: Mac.exe [Browse] Command Line: %1 %2 -c4000______ [^] [x] Tag after Encoding If Supported -------------------------------------- And when I select APE in format in Rip format selection Dialog It loads APE Settings i have set. Settings of External Encoders can be in MediaMonkey.ini like this [System] ExtEnc=1 [Enc1] Ext=APE Encoder=c:\Mac.exe Tag=1 CmdLine1=%1 %2 -c4000 CmdLine2= CmdLine3= CmdLine4= CmdLine5= I hope I clear you out, I just thought that this kind of Option will gain some users to buy MM. And we will get of users demand for some support from our back; |
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I actually agree with you completely that APE/MPC encoding is a much-needed feature (see 0001357 and 0001358) . I was just trying to say that we do need encoding functionality for APE / MPC, but that how we go about resolving 0001357 / 0001358 is an engineering decision and that this bug simply describes one approach to resolving it. I do see your point though...maybe it would be a good idea to add this type of support until such a time that we have native encoding... |
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regarding 0001357 : Monkey's Audio has DLL which we can use to support native encoding and I have done front-end to encode to APE (it can be found on FTP in My folder) and depends on solving 0001356 Regarding 0001358 : MPC encoding relied on external encoder which can be solved by solving this. Note: This issue also applies to FLAC Encoding, as it also relied on external encoder. |
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Setting as 'high' (not critical to 2.5.4 release). |
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Can you revise this to include it in MM 4.0? If needed I can make additional specs and cases where it could be used. |
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Doesn't seem like a high priority item to me. Have users asked for this? |
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Users haven't asked for this specifically, but it could serve as a useful workaround for other features which haven't been implemented and are often requested (i.e. Apple lossless encoding, use of Nero's AAC encoder, other formats which we don't support, etc.) |
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I agree that this can be a valuable feature and could mitigate some MM deficiencies. Jiri? |
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Leaving this as a possible addition for MM 4.0, when other issues are resolved. |
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Well, I think that you are wrong - users are asked for this specifically. There are many requests in the Wishlist forum for such thing, for example: http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=52712 (Nero AAC Encoder/Decoder support). I don't know why this is such big problem to add (6+ years since Peke's request). It is just calling some external program with transferred parameters in command line, in same way as you have a possibility to start Winamp for reproduction instead of internal player. Every serious audio program which has conversion as one of its options should have possibility to call external encoders/decoders. It is not wonder that I am still using foobar for audio conversions. |
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With Current Development and Addition to Format/Encoder structure and also scripting API it should be possible to make simple script to utilize external exe. |
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If I need to write some script for such thing then I would write a stand-alone application which would call some external tool for encoding. Or, I would just open foobar2000 and do it there like I am already doing. I am not asking something for myself. It is in your interest to implement such thing, not in mine - as I have noted, I already have the right tool for that. |
