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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0015345 | MMW 5 | Tagging / organizing (properties / auto-tools) | public | 2019-01-17 08:05 | 2019-02-12 02:47 |
| Reporter | rusty | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | urgent | Severity | major | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | closed | Resolution | reopened | ||
| Product Version | 5.0 | ||||
| Target Version | 5.0 | Fixed in Version | 5.0 | ||
| Summary | 0015345: Auto-Tag will often not recommend the original Album | ||||
| Description | From bbb) at #14224. Auto-Tag still fails to look up albums correctly for the following tracks: 2a) Love Potion # 9 by The Clovers: MM looks up various options with text (e.g. Love Potion Number Nine) but fails to find the original 'Love Potion # 9' and consequently cannot find (automatically or manually) https://musicbrainz.org/release/dad65cad-8935-4f7a-a65b-d2c600eb4bc7 . 2b) Sixteen Candles - The Crests. Recommends a compilation album and indicates Album Artist=The Crests even though it should be Various. MM can't (even manually) find https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/3eb7a9b1-1c18-41cb-9f58-e138a00dfbe8 even after changing the title to '16 Candles'. 3) ('Til) I Kissed You by The Everly Brothers. Recommends a compilation album instead of the oldest album. Manually choosing the album works. 4) He's so fine - The Chiffons. Recommends a compilation album instead of the oldest album. Manually choosing the album works. 5) Charlie Brown - The Coasters. Recommends a compilation album instead of the oldest single. Manually choosing the album works. 6) Hawaii-Five-O - The Ventures. Recommends a compilation album instead of the oldest single. Manually choosing the album works (except that Album Art isn't found). 7) Walk Don't Run - The Ventures. Recommends a recent Ventures album instead of the oldest single. Manually choosing the album works. 8) Sheila - Tommy Roe. Can't automatically or manually find the album: https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/b8dde582-6263-3c8a-9e8b-b6582d539420 9) Upon changing 'With or Without You (video version)' to 'With or Without You', the Album changes to a compilation album! 10) Madonna - Like a virgin. Recommends a compilation album! Manually choosing the correct album works. 11) Tainted Love by Softcell 12) Start me up by The Rolling Stones | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
| Fixed in build | 2158 | ||||
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Fixed |
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Verified 2149 |
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Build 2149 is much improved, however, there are still several cases that are problematic: 2b) Sixteen Candles - The Crests. Recommends a compilation album and can't (even manually) find https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/3eb7a9b1-1c18-41cb-9f58-e138a00dfbe8 even after changing the title to '16 Candles' (in fact, it seems as if changing the Album Artist to 'The Crests' fails to expand the choice of albums). 6) Hawaii-Five-O - Hawaii Five-0 - The Ventures: looks up incorrectly (because of 0 instead of O). But when the user tries to find more titles and switches to Hawaii-Five-0, the album fails to look up! 13) Roy Orbison - Crying: Recommends Crying/Candyman (1976) instead of Crying (1962) |
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Tested with 2150 and item 6) doesn't occur. I've found various other cases that are problematic, though: 14) Shout - The Isley brothers. Recommends 'Nipper's Greatest Hits' instead of 'Shout (1959)'. 15) Why So Sad? - Manic Street Preachers. Recommends 'The ultimate hits collection (2001)' instead of 'Know Your Enemy (2001)'. MM shouldn't recommend a compilation album over a non-compilation album/single if both are from the same year. 16) No More (Baby I'ma Do Right) - 3LW. Recommends compilation album 'Female' instead of the actual album '3LW'. 18) Over My Head (Cable Car) - The Fray. Recommends 'Over My Head (Cable Car) (2007)' instead of 'How to Save a Life (2005)'. 19) Perfect Gentleman - Wyclef Jean. Recommends 'Perfect Gentleman (2001)' instead of 'The Ecleftic II sides 2 a Book (2000)'. 20) Ramblin Man - The Allman Brothers. Recommends 'All Singing - All Talking - All Rocking (1973)' instead of 'Brothers and Sisters (8/1/1973)'. Could it be that if 2 possible albums are from the same year, then the one with a specific release date might be the better recommendation? Note: I've removed item 17 (handling of tracks with multiple artists) since it's a different issue |
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re 14) it is detected correctly when title is correct 'Shout', but it is 'Shout, Parts 1 & 2' |
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21) Don't Tell Me - Avril Lavigne (new copy with some metadata). MM Recommends 'malhação international 2004' album by Album Artist 'Avril Lavigne' even though it is by Various Artists, instead of 'Under My Skin'. 23) Trouble - P!nk. This is already a correctly tagged track, but MM recommends Hits 57 instead of 'Try This' (original value). Note: I've removed item 22) since it's a different issue (handling of multiple-artist tracks) |
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Items 15, 20, 21, 23 fixed. re 18: it is because acoustID doesn't send album date for some of the releases (How to Save a Life) re 19: track Perfect Gentleman you sent me is from album Perfect Gentleman (https://musicbrainz.org/release/5b97f334-f369-4489-b834-e3496537bf1f) based on it's length 3:19 (track in album The Ecleftic: 2 Sides II a Book should have 4 minutes and 10 seconds https://musicbrainz.org/release/81828679-556a-441f-ba7c-46f8c9c92886 ... so it is different track) re 16: it's same as 19 ... track you sent is not from album you mentioned (there should be track with length 4:23), but rather from compilation album female (as there's just 2 seconds difference). EDIT: i've changed a fingerprinting a little so it should give us better results |
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Tested 2151 and most items have been fixed. Remaining issues: 2b) Sixteen Candles - The Crests. Same as before: Recommends a compilation album and can't (even manually) find https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/3eb7a9b1-1c18-41cb-9f58-e138a00dfbe8 even after changing the title to '16 Candles' (in fact, it seems as if changing the Album Artist to 'The Crests' fails to expand the choice of albums). 23) Trouble - P!nk. The original issue is resolved, but if the user deletes all metadata and then uses auto-tag --> MM identifies the track as Trouble (radio edit). If the user changes this to 'Trouble' --> The MM recommends Hits 57 instead of 'Try This'. 20) Ramblin Man - The Allman Brothers. Recommends 'The Best of the Allman Brothers'--because it's the existing tag--rather than of 'Brothers and Sisters (8/1/1973)' (the recommendation changes if I delete the original Album value). I guess this behavior is intentional? I can see why it might be desirable, though I wonder: should we add a setting to 'ignore existing album'? We can discuss this offline and open a new bug if needed... ---------- Note: the originally described problem has been solved for the following issues, but they've been moved to other bugs because of other issues that have cropped up: 6) Hawaii-Five-O - Hawaii Five-0 - The Ventures: Same as in 2149: looks up incorrectly (because of 0 instead of O in Hawaii 5-0). But when the user tries to find more titles, Hawaii Five-O isn't found! But if the user tries to manually enter the title of 'Hawaii Five-O' then the Album is updated. Moving this issue to 0015346 (incorrectly looked up Title) 16) No More (Baby I'ma Do Right) - 3LW. Original issue is fixed, however, now: a) MM incorrectly identifies the track as No More (Instrumental) instead of No More (Baby I'ma Do Right). Moved to 0015346 (incorrectly looked up Title) b) Upon manually changing the album to '3LW', MM changes the Album Artist to 3LW;Nas . Moved to 0015373 (incorrect Album Artist) 21) Don't Tell Me - Avril Lavigne (new copy with some metadata). MM recommends changing the title to 'Don't Tell me (live acoustic version)', and therefore recommends the wrong album! Also, for some reason suggestions include two identical titles of 'Don't Tell Me' (one of them being the version from the Various Artists album 'malhação international 2004' (the real album is 'Under My Skin' which is another suggestion). Moving this to 0015346 (incorrectly looked up title). |
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Fixed |
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Verified 2152 |
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Tested 2152 and I'm still experiencing the following: 2b) Sixteen Candles - The Crests. Recommends a compilation album and can't (even manually) find https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/3eb7a9b1-1c18-41cb-9f58-e138a00dfbe8 even after changing the title to '16 Candles' (in fact, it seems as if changing the Album Artist to 'The Crests' fails to expand the choice of albums). Is there an issue with the musicbrainz entry? EDIT: here's a video |
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Cannot reproduce ... do you Peke ? |
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As discussed, after cleaning the auto-tag URL cache (using a custom script) this issue no longer occurs. Re-assigning back to Petr for a solution that will prevent this from happening (ideally without user intervention). |
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Fixed. Cache will be cleared after every install. |
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I've found a few more problematic test cases with 2152: 22) Rag Doll - The Four Seasons. MM initially recommends a greatest hits album from 1989. Only upon manually using 'Find more albums' is the original Single/Album found from 1964. 23) The Shangri Las - Leader of the Pack. MM initially recommends a greatest hits album (due to the pre-existing tag). When the user changes the Album Artist from 'Various' to 'The Shangri Las' --> MM doesn't update the Album suggestions. 24) The Magic Touch - The Platters. MM recommends a 1991 album because it can't find the original. 25) The Chordettes - Mister Sandman. MM recommends a compilation album and can't find https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/2e645383-6654-3c42-89f4-662eab42d71d |
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Fixed |
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Tested 2153: 22) Rag Doll - The Four Seasons. Now MM recommends 'The 4 Seasons' Gold Vault of Hits' from 1965, instead of the original Single/Album found from 1964. 23) The Shangri Las - Leader of the Pack. MM initially recommends a greatest hits album (due to the pre-existing tag). When the user changes the Album Artist from 'Various' to 'The Shangri Las' --> MM updates the Album suggestions, but doesn't recommend any--i.e. it changes the Album to "". 25) The Chordettes - Mister Sandman. MM doesn't recommend any album even though the suggestion list includes the single https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/2e645383-6654-3c42-89f4-662eab42d71d I suspect that 23 and 25 are the same issue--that the Album field is updating in response to the change in Album Artist, but that the recommendation isn't being shown. |
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Tested 2153+ test build: 22) Can't replicate 25) Can't replicate 23) MM now initially recommends a valid Album by Album Artist:The Shangri-Las, however, if the user changes the album artist to 'Various' --> no suitable albums are looked up! |
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re 23) tried to change album to any compilation, then change album artist from 'Various Artists' back to 'The Shangri-Las' and album changed as it should. |
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Issue 23 is no longer relevant since the Album Artist field doesn't trigger filtering of the Album field (due to current db lookup limitations). |
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26) There seems to be a regression in 2154 causing poor album recommendations in many cases. e.g.: a) Thriller - Michael Jackson: Recommends album 'Bad' instead of 'Thriller' b) Yes - Owner of a Lonely Heart: Recommends a correct single from 1983, but doesn't even suggest 90125 from 1983--instead it shows 90125 (2013) and several other albums by Asia?! c) Call Me - Blondie: Recommends album 'Blondie 4(0)Ever' (2014) instead of Call Me (1980) or American Gigolo Soundtrack (1980) 27) Also, there's a problem in 2154 that tracks that are initially released on a Soundtrack (e.g. Call Me (see 27c above), Footloose, The Power of Love) don't have the Soundtrack listed: a) Footloose - Kenny Loggins: Recommends the Single Footloose, but doesn't even suggest the 'Footloose (Soundtrack)'! b) The Power of Love - Huey Lewis & the News: doesn't offer a suggestion of 'Back to the Future (Soundtrack)' Note: json files weren't generated for any of these lookups by build 2154. |
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Items 26, 27a fixed. re 27b) 'Back to the Future' soundtrack isn't even in MB response ... will try to reindex MB database. |
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Fixed |
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Tested 2155 (did not yet verify issues 26/27): 28) Bad Album Recommendation: Frank Sinatra - Thanks for the Memory. Recommends She Shot Me Down (2010) instead of She Shot Me Down (1981) https://musicbrainz.org/release/d3e2d045-71b1-4ed8-9842-73e3ae7eb223 . It doesn't even find the 1981 version--Is this because MM ignore's 'promotion' releases? 29) Album Recommendation doesn't update on changing Title: For Julie London - Summertime, change the Title to 'Summertime' (mm incorrectly identifies it as 'When Snowflakes fall in Summer') . Upon doing so, the Album recommendation doesn't update to 'Feeling Good' even though the originally suggested album doesn't contain Summertime! |
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Fixed |
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These may already be fixed by the fix in 2156: Missing Album Suggestions: 31) El perdon - Nicky Jam. MM correctly recommends https://musicbrainz.org/release/2fb01e4a-d91a-4b3b-aae8-5763a482b0f0 (Greatest Hits), but doesn't suggest https://musicbrainz.org/release/dd7df6ea-b5ca-492f-80e4-14490660ebc4 (Fenix) even if the user tries to find more albums. EDIT: this is by design--the track on Fenix is not the Julio Iglesias remix which was detected. BUT in order to percolate other valid suggestions upwards, we'd discussed improvements to the order of album suggestions from: Album or Single (by best match/date), Everything else (by date) --> Album (incl. EP) or Single (by best match/date), Soundtrack and Remix (by best match/date), Everything else (by best match/date) ? 31) Do it again - Pia Mia . Suggest various compilation albums, but not https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/0f8e2af6-2c13-4881-b620-d60eb5582b6d EDIT: it's because the status is not: Official or Promotion. For the future we'll include Albums/Singles with no status. |
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Verified 2156. |
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I found a couple of additional issues in 2157: 32) Climax - Usher: MM suggests an EP 'Popular' by Album Artist: High Park before an Album 'Looking 4 Myself' by Usher. Any suggestions on how to best modify the order of suggestions to prevent this? 33) Good Feeling - Flo Rida: MM suggests 'Wild Ones (single)', when in fact, 'Wild Ones' is an _album_! See: https://musicbrainz.org/release-group/3d3ca13d-8269-4d90-95c9-7e03bb297d37 |
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re 32) problem is i do now know album artist so i cannot compare with current (album artist and some other album details like genre are loaded once user will select album from suggestions) ... so now albums/singles/EPs are sorted by date re 33) fixed ... both should (album and single) be suggested |
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Verified 2158. |
