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IDProjectCategoryView StatusLast Update
0019615MMW 5Main Panelpublic2023-12-08 14:56
ReporterLudek Assigned To 
PriorityurgentSeveritymajorReproducibilityalways
Status feedbackResolutionopen 
Product Version5.0 
Target Version5.1.1 
Summary0019615: MicroPlayer cannot be enabled in Windows 11 (add it as addon)
DescriptionWhen trying to enable MicroPlayer in Windows 11 the dialog is shown to enable it by right-clicking Taskbar, click Toolbars and enable 'MediaMonkey Player'.
The problem is that this settings isn't available in Windows 11.

Additional Informationhttps://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=503654#p503654

 https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/bring-back-toolbars-in-windows-11-taskbar/64010a24-482b-4953-bcd4-2a4dd5cf5da9

https://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=105237
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Relationships

related to 0017072 resolvedpetr Micro Player: stops responding & other issues 
related to 0020460 closedLudek Switch to micro/mini player button should be changed on Windows 11 

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rusty

2022-12-09 20:48

administrator   ~0070512

If custom toolbars aren't supported in Win11, a couple of possible alternatives could be:
a) Add BACK, Artwork, Next buttons to the tray (where Artwork also serves to Play/Pause). Similar to https://github.com/evilpro/Taskplay. With this approach, the controls would be configured in Options > General > Minimization settings.
b) Rely on a third party app such as https://github.com/AudioBand/AudioBand , by integrating MM into that Open Source product
bii) Create our own version of AudioBand
c) Rely on Rainmeter (integration work may be required)

Ludek

2022-12-09 23:58

developer   ~0070515

Last edited: 2022-12-09 23:58

b) AudioBand also relies on ExplorerPatcher now (on Win 11) : https://audioband.github.io/AudioBand/audioband/Windows11.html

Ludek

2022-12-13 12:18

developer   ~0070534

Last edited: 2022-12-13 12:29

Doing some testing and I can confirm that ExplorerPatcher works fine as a workaround to restore this functionality (be it AudioBand or the MM micro player)

So as for the possible solutions for 5.0.5:
A) Hide 'Switch to MicroPlayer' completelly on Windows 11
or
B) upon trying to switch to MicroPlayer MM could redirect to a KB article (rather than showing the current dialog with a MicroPlayer not yet enabled in Toolbars).
In the KB article we could note about the ExplorerPatcher need and how to install it etc.

I guess that solution B) is preferrable for 5.0.5 ?

As for possible solution for 5.1:
I guess that adding something similar to TaskPlay (just configurable tray icons) should be an easy addition, on the other hand it would be just a very "lite" version of MicroPlayer
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rusty

2023-02-01 14:23

administrator   ~0071068

B) I suppose the text can be something like:

"The MicroPlayer is not yet enabled. View 'Help' button to enable it."

Help can link to: https://www.mediamonkey.com/mmw/miniplayer

Bii) On windows 11: Minimize to MicroPlayer --> Minimize to MicroPlayer (beta)

Biii) I would also suggest that on upgrade from MMW4 to MMW5 (but not on upgrade from MMW5 to MMW5.x), the 'Minimize to microplayer' setting should automatically change to 'Minimize to toolbar'. That would prevent the hassle that some users experience on upgrading. On the other hand, it's probably not that important, since most users have already upgraded.

After resolving the issue please assign to MartinW to document and then to me for the web portion.

Ludek

2023-02-07 19:34

developer   ~0071118

B) I wouldn't change the text for 5.0.5 (as it is already translated), but rather directly redirect to the KB article once the switch is being initialized.
i.e. instead of showing the dialog open the KB article directly, do you agree?

BTW: Why the link is https://www.mediamonkey.com/mmw/miniplayer and not https://www.mediamonkey.com/mmw/microplayer ?

Bii) Can you eleborate? What the "beta" appendix should indicate and why it should be there at all?

Biii) What is the point of "Minimize to toolbar" ? Isn't it rather confusing and easily mixed with the "tray icon" player?

Thinking about all the hessle: Wouldn't it be better to just make the old MicroPlayer rather as an addon? In the addon install guidelines we could note that on Win 11 the ExplorerPatcher is needed to be installed and we can take care of it on addon install??

Ludek

2023-12-08 14:56

developer   ~0073762

Let's remove the "Micro Player" option in course of related issue 0020460
Later we can add Micro Player back as addon (with a need to install also Explorer Patcher) as suggested above..