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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0008131 | MMW v4 | Tracklist | public | 2011-07-12 21:32 | 2011-09-12 22:42 |
| Reporter | rusty | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | urgent | Severity | major | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | closed | Resolution | no change required | ||
| Product Version | 4.0 | ||||
| Target Version | 4.0 | Fixed in Version | 4.0 | ||
| Summary | 0008131: AA view: columns don't set/sort for video | ||||
| Description | In the AA view, columns seem to be hardcoded, and it's unclear how to customize them on a per collection basis. One would have expected that the AA view would display those columns that the user enables in the Collection > Column settings that are relevant to the AA view. e.g. try to create a collection called 'Movies' | ||||
| Additional Information | http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=59203 | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
| Fixed in build | 1416 | ||||
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Fixed in 1407 |
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Verified in 1407, but can Title be added as this is the most important field for Movies and the column often sorted on. |
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In AA view (without details) we can use just columns they can be used to whole album (title is track related field). When each track in one album have different title, what's the title for the album then ? It's difficult to use in AA view. |
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Maybe I'm not fully understanding this. Sorts by Series/Title column are supposed to work such that MM sorts the files by Series _if they exist_, and then by Title. If Series is unknown, then MM sorts a given file just by Title. Doesn't that meet LL's requirement? |
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If Series sorts on Series > Title it would meet the requirement, but currently it has 2 issues. 1) It only sorts ascending (A-Z), descending (Z-A) doesn't work for Title. 2) It Groups all under Unknown as Series is unknown. I'd still rather have a separated Title Column as it's clearer. Just to clarify, although Title isn't too relevant with Music and TV Shows it is very important with Movies. As MediaMonkey was Music only it is Album/Series centric which causes issues when working with Movies which are Title centric. This is why I proposed a Movies Type so it can be designed to be Title centric. Also the Type Vs. Collection choice will run into issues when settings are by Type and Collections are setup as multi-type Collections. |
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I think that the Series/Title applies to movies as well. e.g. Series "Start Wars", Title "Revenge of the Jedii". Of course we can further optimize in the future, but this is good enough for now. The solution then is to fix the Sorting problems that you outlined above. |
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Most movies have no Series. |
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Sorting fixed in 1408 |
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This is still problematic in build 1411 because: 1) Sorting by Series/Title is ugly because: a) It's impossible to deselect Series in A&D view, so both Series/Title and Series columns appear! b) in cases where > 1 Title is attached to a series, The title that appears doesn't really make sense (i.e. why is only 1 Title out of 6 displayed?) The real solution is to add configurable Grouping and Stacking functionality, but another hack might be to not display the Title information (i.e. just use the Series/Title to sort by series & title, and stack titles within a series, but _never_ display the Title--use the Title column for that instead). |
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The fields to show in Series/Title or Artist/Album is defined in Playback Rules. Problem is that user can't define this settings per collection (it's defined just by type). |
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The Playback rules define the format of the 'Summary' column. However, the problem here is that: 1a) The 'Series' column cannot be deselected (there must be a reason, but I'm not sure why), so Series information appears in both the 'Series' column and in the 'Summary' column. (note: this issue is also described at 0008064 issue 4vi) 1b) This is a problem. It seems that there are only 2 possible means of displaying TV Series in Art & Details view: i) Sorted by 'Series': With the name of the series displayed multiple times (even though it's grouped by Series) ii) Sorted by 'Summary': Which shows the Title (which is irrelevant when multiple episodes exist) Summary: the first approach makes more sense for series consisting of multiple episodes (i.e. enabling the 'Series' column (instead of the Summary (Art View) column), however, it needs to be fixed so that if there are groups by Series, the series shouldn't be listed for each episode. Not sure if it's possible though, without a 'group by' function. |
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As discussed with Petr, this should be fixed by: - Fixing 1a) - Adding support for sorting Summary column (simply sort by its content). I'd also remove showing of '(Art View)' after 'Summary' column. I understand that it's needed for resolution of Summary columns, but it looks really weird in the main window - as well as 'Summary (Now Playing)'. I'd leave both only as 'Summary' and show them fully only in configuration (e.g. right-click menu on header). |
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Fixed in 1416 |
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As discussed with Rusty, we should do the same also for 'Summary (Now Playing)' field (i.e. show it only as 'Summary' in Now Playing header). |
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After offline communication with Rusty we leave Summary column as is. Edit by Rusty: this column is applicable to any collection with multiple Types of files. |
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Verified 1430 |
