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| ID | Project | Category | View Status | Date Submitted | Last Update |
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| 0015157 | MMW 5 | Now Playing | public | 2018-10-15 21:59 | 2020-05-30 01:29 |
| Reporter | rusty | Assigned To | |||
| Priority | urgent | Severity | major | Reproducibility | always |
| Status | closed | Resolution | reopened | ||
| Product Version | 5.0 | ||||
| Target Version | 5.0 | Fixed in Version | 5.0 | ||
| Summary | 0015157: Now Playing list view | ||||
| Description | When the user switching to Now Playing view, there's no Tracklist view (i.e. a view that allows users to edit metadata of currently playing tracks). Such a view should be added (to the available NP views). | ||||
| Tags | No tags attached. | ||||
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| Fixed in build | 2253 | ||||
| related to | 0015058 | closed | rusty | Playback: Ability to play Video files in "Now Playing" view |
| related to | 0015048 | closed | michal | Video Playback: Enhancements |
| related to | 0016318 | closed | michal | Preview Window: 'Playing' mode can be in Full-Screen / Full Window -- no way to exit |
| related to | 0016567 | new | rusty | Merge Visualization and Immersive Now Playing modes |
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NP views are meant to be immersive, I think that the NP related operations rather belong to the NP List. It currently offers only the simplified view, which isn't intended for editing, so I wonder whether rather to add a NP list menu switch to let user to show any kind of view, including e.g. artwork+tracklist, etc. |
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From my perspective there's no need to separate 'immersive' Now Playing from regular Now Playing. For example, in Android, the user just clicks the Album Art image to open 'immersive' now playing, and then taps the 'list' button to toggle to the list view. The difference in this case is that MMW/5 has extra space for a partial NP list, so we need a logical way of switching between: 1) Various views + NP list (summary view) 2) NP a) list detailed view ( list view / Album & tracks view) b) immersive (Default / ?Default + List? / Lyrics / Artist Bio) Challenges: - users expect to navigate the database via the Tree / Nodes in the tracklist / Breadcrumbs. So it would be a bit confusing if those access points didn't give them access to the NP list. - the button(s) to toggle between immersive and regular Now Playing must always be accessible (e.g. they cannot depend on the presence of the right-hand column) Note: I'm assuming that 'Now Playing List' refers to the right-hand column Suggestion: A)i) Clicking 'Now Playing' via the Tree / Nodes in the tracklist OR the NP Header --> Opens the NP detailed list view (?and makes no changes to the right-hand column since the Art&Details window is still needed?) . ii) Clicking the Now Playing AA & metadata (either in the Player [?implies that we require this by default?] OR in the A&D _Playing_ dialog [Not ideal since users may not have this enabled/displayed) --> Opens NP Immersive view and changes the Now Playing AA in the Player to a NP List icon. B) Once in the NP view: i) Exit NP via: clicking the Back button or Home Button ii) Toggle to immersive: same as Aii) above iii) Toggle to list view: click the NP List icon in the Player that appears in immersive mode note: In this scheme, the only buttons that are guaranteed to be shown are NP AA in the Player, List icon in the Player, Back button and work pretty much the same as in MMA. All other paths to the described functionality are for convenience. |
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I wonder whether all the issues wouldn't be resolved by changing the immersive move NP views to Visualizations. This would probably require some minor changes to how visualization works, its invocation etc. We could dedicate the NP tree node back to the full NP list (not sure whether to make the tree node visible be default, is the list that important?). |
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On further review of the issue, I'd say the we should really unite NP views, visualization and also video playback, but slightly differently. The current implementation of visualization and video playback is good imho, as the small (A&D) window works well for a background playback where the rest of MM5 UI is still available for media management, and then the full-window and full-screen modes are obviously useful for casual content consumption. Since NP views have very similar use-cases, I think that they should have a very similar workflow, i.e. to be able to be shown as a part of A&D window and then maximized as needed. This would result of Now Playing tree node being available for an ordinary NP list, the same as we have in MM4. I'd make the node hidden by default, since it isn't useful for most of users, imho. |
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Per offline discussion, we will not change basic behavior of NP view, as layout in small art window will always be different from bigger NP view. "List" layout of NP view added to build 2163. This should cover possibility of adjustable displaying of current NP list with in-place editing. |
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Tested 2165, and it's working well except that the 'Playing' list is duplicated (i.e. it appears a second time in the right-hand column). Ideally, when the user chooses to display the 'list' view, the Playing list shouldn't appear . i.e. this 'List' view should be a custom (configurable) view that by default: - Contains a list - Contains in the right column the A&D window (but not the NP list). Can this adjustment be easily made? |
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Fixed in build 2166. |
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Verified 2166 All mockup elements are there, and NP list do not appear. |
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Tested 2166, and the NP view looks good, however, there are a couple of issues: 1) View switching doesn't work as expected. i.e. . 1 in Music, collapse the Right column . 2 Switch to Audiobooks --> Column remains collapsed (as expected) . 3 Switch to Playing (list view) --> Column displays (as expected) . 4 Switch to Music --> Column re-appears (it shouldn't)!!! . 5 Switch to Playing (list view) . 6 Collapse the right column . 7 Switch to Music . 8 Switch back to Playing (list view) --> Column re-appears (it shouldn't)!!! The column settings for the Playing view should be independent of other views. 2) Switching views within list view causes the right column to appear. e.g. . 1 Switch to Playing 'Default' --> view appears (normally without the right column) . 2 Switch to Playing 'List' . 3 Switch to Playing 'Default' --> view appears (with the right column)!!! . 4 Switch to Playing 'Default + list' --> view appears with 2 columns (one from the view + one from the column)!!! 3) I would suggest renaming/simplifying the views as follows (in this order): a) Default + List --> Album Art (show a toggle for the list (or better yet, use the right-column toggle) in the upper right corner to enable/disable the column so that two different views aren't required) b) List c) Artist Bio d) Lyrics 4) Tweaks to Artist Bio view: a) display more of the wikipedia entry (e.g. allow the column to fill the available vertical space) b) improve the image lookup algorithm (e.g. use the same one that's used for finding Artist Images in the Artists view). Currently, the Artist 'Stick Figure' shows a bunch of stick figures instead of images of the Artist. |
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Re "The column settings for the Playing view should be independent of other views." - "Playing view" is in fact only the middle part, the left column with tree (by default) and the right column with NP list and artwork (by default) is different part of our layout, this can be set in Options - Library - Layout. You say, that we should have two Layout settings, one when is Playing view displayed and then another? Otherwise I am not sure how to set this to be not confusing. |
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1) & 2) Perhaps the best way to approach this is to review the desired options and requirements: a) Album Art (List only in column/Hidden) b) List (Art & Details only in column/Hidden) c) Artist Bio (List + Art & Details in column/Hidden) d) Lyrics (List + Art & Details [w/o lyrics] in column/Hidden) e) In all cases, whether a column is hidden or not in Now Playing views should be independent of whether it is hidden or not for other views (besides Now Playing). With the above in mind, I guess that one way of achieving the above would be to create a second layout for 'Now Playing' (assuming that this allows all of the above needs to be met; I'm not really clear on how the user configures [or whether it's even possible] a column to display differently for each of the Now Playing views [since all 4 instances of the column are slightly different]--would 4 additional layouts be required rather than one extra layout?). |
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Fixed in build 2168: 1) docks/panels visibility setting when NP view is displayed is independent now, so user can set what should be displayed for NP view (e.g. hide NP list) and separately what for the rest. It is common setting for all NP view layouts. Automatic hiding is removed, it would collide with user setting. I think specific dock/panels visibility for every NP view layout would be confusing and needlessly complicated, user now simply choose NP view layout, set visibility of panels (like art window, NP list, tree) and this setting persists. 2) fixed 3) fixed, NP list can be displayed by View -> Playing. 4) a) is is already possible, just click "More" in the bottom right corner |
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4) b) improved in 2168. Note, search results still could differ from artist view, because NP view needs larger images, so e.g. small images from Discogs are not suitable. And artists with names with such common meaning could sometimes contain wrong images. We can improve search results only individually for given artist, not generally. |
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All but the following are fixed. Assigning to Jiri for feedback, since it may affect view handling in general: 1)&2) a)/c)/d) Album Art/Artist Bio/Lyrics: should ideally display with the tree collapsed (in the default setting) b) As previously discussed, List should display without a duplicate 'Playing' list showing (though it should show the A&D content) btw, another possible solution would be to have one setting for all NP views except for NP List view which has it's own settings. Note: if this is too complex we can track this in a new bug and defer to 5.0.1. 5) Manage Views allows the user to configure all four NP views, except it offers no meaningful configuration. If we fix 1)&2) above as proposed, then meaningful settings should display. Otherwise there's no reason for this config option to display for these views. |
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Retested 2223: 1/2) b) A possible approach for a future version of MM5 is that the 'Playing' window can have a 'full screen' icon similar to the 'full screen' icon that appears in the Preview Window (Visualization mode). It would: - Expand Playing to take up the full Window - When expanded, there could be a 'minimize' button that would shrink the NP mode. However, this functionality needs to be thought through in greater detail since there are many interactions/usecases affected. 5) It seems that 'Manage views' was disabled in NP at some point in time. Not sure if this was intended, but if that's the approach we take, then it shouldn't even appear as a menu option. |
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5) it is intended, requested by you here: https://www.ventismedia.com/mantis/view.php?id=15756#c55403 Changed in build 2225, now visibility is changed instead of disabling. |
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Closing. The rest could be part of separate issue targeted to 5.1, I think everything is done for 5.0. |
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Re-opened, as discussed offline there are strange consequences of this issue that looks like a bug: Case1: 1) go to Music node and disable 'Left Panel' 2) go to Playing node => 'Left Panel' is back! Case2: 1) go to Music node and disable 'Right panel' 2) go to Playing node => 'Right Panel' is back!! Both cases are strange from the user perspective and considered as bugs. I would suggest so that panel visibility is independent on node (like in MM4) |
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Here's what the intent was: Column settings should apply except when MM has an 'immersive' view--i.e. Views such as: Visualization: full screen/full window Video playback: full screen/full window Now Playing [Album Art]: should show optionally show NP List/Preview window ; must hide left column Now Playing [Artist Bio]: should optionally show NP List/Preview window; must hide left column Now Playing [Lyrics]: should optionally show NP List/Preview window; must hide left column For views that aren't immersive (such as Now Playing [list]), default column settings can be used. Ludek suggested that these needs could be better met by: a) Always applying column settings to all Now Playing views (as long as they're not in 'full screen' / 'full window' mode) b) Allow users to switch to 'immersive' Now Playing modes [Album Art, Artist Bio, Lyrics] which wouldn't use the column settings (currently implemented as 'Show full window'/'Show full screen' contextual options. In order for this to work well, we should also implement: c) Full Windown / Full Screen overlay buttons (just like in movies) so that the functionality is discoverable d) Add a toggle button to display the right column in these full screen/full window modes i.e. - Now Playing [Album Art]: optionally show NP List - Now Playing [Artist Bio]: optionally show NP List/Preview window - Now Playing [Lyrics]: should optionally show NP List/Preview window note: it's not necessary for the NP list in full screen / full window modes to be editable. |
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ok, so to summarize: b) is already implemented a) needs to be implemented for 5.0 to resolve bugs Case1 & Case2 above (and for consistency) c) should be implemented for 5.0 because of the discoverability (just adding the Full Windown / Full Screen overlay buttons) d) should be probably also easy to add as the 'NP list' was already there in the past, i.e. it is just about adding it back (invisible by default) and another overlay toggle button for this (same icon as for enabling left panel) -- but might be deffered to 5.1 as for the 'Preview' window: I don't think that it is necessary to show it in the full-screen and full-window modes |
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a) is fixed in 2239 |
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c) is fixed in 2239 |
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Fixed in build 2245. Implemented NP list, I also think, preview is not needed. Closing NP list is by standard close button in the top right corner, I think toggle button is redundant then. |
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Verified 2245. Looks great! |
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In 0016585, Peke discovered that the NP List view can still be made to appear in duplicate in build 2251: Reopen with little bit different issue but related to almost same repro steps. 1 Play tracks 2 Switch to Playing [Album Art] 3 Switch to Full Window 4 Click the three dots above the Now Playing transparent view > Layout 5 Click 'OK' in the layout --> Now Playing appears in duplicate (the 'real' NP + transparent NP). https://i.ibb.co/yF2KR4v/image.png |
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Fixed in build 2253. View is restored before displaying Options/Layout dialog now to avoid this, as Layout should be set for restored mode, not fullwindow/fullscreen. |
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Verified 2253 |
